I am going to take space today to replay the comments of, and add my responses to, the arguments against my views on health insurance reform. My correspondent, one Mr. Gaston Glock, will not be happy but I am choosing to print his words in blue and mine in Republican red.
There is *nothing* more important than FREEDOM.
Hunger. Sex. God. (in any order you choose)
However, this bill restricts the freedom of individual citizens, it restricts the freedom of doctors and medical professionals, it restricts the freedom of private employers, it restricts the freedom of the insurance industry.
Any legislation restricts freedom. All the rest is commentary.
But specifically, any individual can pay anything he/she wants to any doctor. Medical professionals, however, are not free to practice the best medicine they know how because of insurance companies. Doctors now are paid, essentially, by insurance companies, which have more money and more power than government. Insurance companies—not government—rations health care. So pick your villain. I will choose government, whose officials I can lobby and vote out of office.
Private employers are not free, either, in the best use of their workforce or their capital -- due to insurance companies. Reform legislation would, in fact, restrict the freedom of the insurance industry, which has among the largest profit margins of any industry, and this industry should be restricted.
This.... from assholes who can't even get three days of vehicle trade-in's right? Christ -- the auto industry has been accepting trade-in vehicles for 3 generations in a transaction that takes 10 minutes. Put the US Government in charge of it, and the whole thing collapses in three days because of incompetent bureaucrats.
I am amazed at your line of thinking. Here is a government program that is incredibly successful beyond all predictions. It is directly stimulative to the economy. The reason a transaction may take longer is to make sure no one is cheating the government/taxpayer. But it doesn’t take longer for the consumer. It takes longer for the dealer and there is not a single car dealer in the U.S. as I write who is not peeing in his pants with delight at this program. A program by the way we borrowed from Europe
I want this for my health care? I opt OUT of this asinine healthcare program and I have to pay a $2,500 penalty?? That is NOT FREEDOM.
I suppose it isn’t freedom to have to insure your car either, but doing so makes it possible for you, and me, to drive. It isn’t freedom to register with the Selective Service System. It isn’t freedom to have to get your kids vaccinated before going to public school. It isn’t freedom to have to get a Social Security number. Ad infinitum.
That is an oppressive government, controlling peoples lives, the type of which leads to revolution.
No, revolution is caused by rising bourgeois discontent over inequalities in society.
Perhaps you really ought to learn what fascism is. Guess what, it starts by Goverment controlling private industry.
I know what fascism is. It is an alliance of government and corporations that imposes its economic and political will by force. It was created by your ancestors and it killed mine. One of the political techniques it uses is to repeatedly lie in small ways and big. Another technique for maintaining political control is to set subgroups of the population against each other sowing fear and hatred, making it easier for the fascist leader to assume and maintain power.
Yeah, Washington knows how to run the banks better than bankers do.....they know how to run the auto industry better than automakers do.....they know how to run healthcare better than health professionals do. Health professionals know how to run healthcare. They are not allowed to -- by insurance companies. And even a cursory drop-by to the reality-based world would make apparent to you that the banking and auto industries are incapable of running themselves.
Profit itself is neither good nor bad but the social cost of private profit has to be taken into account. The system we have now creates a middleman between patient and doctor, and we know what middlemen do. We have examples of Medicare, VA and plans that cover civil and military servants that work very well. You might as well farm out to profit-making corporations things like war.
Oh, nevermind. Blackwater really helped us secure the peace and freedom of Iraq.
...let's bow down do omniscient Washington. Bureaucrats know better than everyone else. Oppressors one and all.
What you fail in each of your posts to recognize is that freedom flourishes here because we have representative government. Bureaucrats, as you know, operate the programs created by Congress, who are elected by the people and who rely on bureaucrats to make the detailed decisions the elected officials are afraid to. And, yes, because of their job requirements bureaucrats do know better than most other people. They, however, are not nor should they be empowered to make policy decisions that go beyond the scope of their executive branch leadership’s direction. And they never do. So blame your elected leaders. And the more we all blame them, the easier it can be to regulate a health insurance program than it is when profiteers run the program.
I would be tempted to ask you how you would run health care, but I am pretty sure I know: Make it entirely a market-based enterprise. You would be dead in five years, from rampant infectious disease if nothing else, or bankrupt. Financially bankrupt, that is.
And most importantly, read the 10th Amendment. This fascist Federal goverment was never granted these powers by the people, and thus those power are reserved to the States or the People.
This government was granted no powers by the people. They took those powers by a bloody revolution. I know which side you would have been on, too! Only losers yap about the 10th Amendment. There has been exactly one 10th Amendment “victory” before the Supreme Court in generations. To others who are still interested in this discussion, do as Herr Glock says and read the Constitution and its granting to Congress power “to make all laws which shall be for carrying in to execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested by the Constitution in the government of the United States or in any department or officer thereof.”
Freedom TRUMPS government!
This a tautology of immense silliness. Without social control (government), freedom goes only to those who are of superior physique, intellect, amorality and means. Since none of those attributes is usually attributed to you, I am surprised that you think you would survive long under the Social Darwinism you worship. Or as the distinguished political philosopher K. Kristofferson, Ph.D., once wrote: “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose.”
No, you don't believe in freedom my subservient friend. Nor does this President.
Over the years, I have seen that what you think is violation of freedom I see as expanding freedom to others without taking away rights from others.
Saying someone doesn’t believe in freedom is like saying someone doesn’t believe in the weather. It is plain stupid and unproductive. When it rains, it is good for farmers and bad for picnickers. When there is a winter of excessive snow, it is bad for home builders but good for ski resort operators. “Freedom” is a relative term, and your freedom is someone else’s demise. It is a pure concept only when you are running around naked (clothes restricting your freedom, naturally) trying to escape nature’s predators.
"Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin
Real nice, adopting the left’s favorite quote about the Bushitler Administration, run by a president whose grandfather actually did business with real fascists.